'Smart Talk' on pay raise

Alison Hawkes summary of Chief Justice Cappy's defense of the judicial pay raise:

"He said judges needed a pay hike because salaries were slipping compared to other states, although a Commonwealth Foundation study showed them 20 percent above the national average. "

"He said his meetings with legislative leaders were not secret but were in offices where the press was not allowed. "

"At one point, Cappy called an angry public “a special interest group.” "